Podcast Show #111: Why is Edward Snowden Censored by Craven Media – Washington Post & Guardian?

The Boiling Frogs Show Presents John Young

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In this episode of the Boiling Frogs Post Show Cryptome.Org’s John Young joins us to discuss and evaluate the recent controversies involving NSA’s illegal surveillance, PRISM, and whistleblower Edward Snowden. Mr. Young talks about Snowden’s choice of publications to release the crucial information, and these craven outlets’ arm-waving, self-aggrandizing verbosity, after conspiring to obey official demands to censor his information, as a pattern well-documented by unfettered disclosure sites. We discuss the trust-worthiness and reliability of the mainstream media outlets when it comes to disclosures and leaks by whistleblowers and much more!

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  1. Thanks, Sibel. I listened to the preview. It appears what John is pointing out with the recent NSA surveillance program[s] is that both the NSA and the Obama administration are engaging in a classic “limited hangout.” This means mitigating the damage (revelation) by managing the perception. In other words, they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, but only say they are taking just one cookie.

  2. Good work again.


  3. A very informative interview with John Young. John is correct that we should put down the “psychic driving” press (my words) we call the major print media. Yes, I do read the NY Times. However, I read it for everything they’re not telling me. What “they” don’t tell me is what John is entreating us to pay attention too. And that depends on we knowing the history of what transpired regarding intelligence. Furthermore, I think I have said here on Sibel’s Facebook that our future course of action depends on us knowing the past. For past is indeed prologue. I would like to ask you folks this, especially because you posters are informed. How many of you have read two of the most quintessential books on the NSA by James Bamford – “The Puzzle Palace and Body of Secrets?” Please be honest.

  4. HAL 9000 says:

    I have listened to every podcast Peter and Sibel have produced at BFP, and I think this may be the most important one to date. Mr. Young is very astute and offers the best advice I can recall hearing from a BFP guest. This one was worth my donation and more. My thanks to all three participants.

  5. janloudermilk says:

    My first comment. TEST

  6. Sibel, you hit the nail on the head regarding the GREAT AMERICAN APATHY! I wish someone would do a documentary specifically around that topic. This has been something that I have come to accept. Reality is a bitch! I believe I’ve mentioned this before, but my dealings with apathy in this country started in mid 1964–before the “Gulf of Tonkin Resolution”(Aug. 1964). I had been serving in US Peace Corps in SE Asia(Philippines) and saw wounded American military in a US military hospital. They had been fighting, dying, and killing Vietnamese resistance fighters. I saw the horror coming and inexorable push to “escalate” the butchery yet to come. I soon became part of the anti-war resistance which morphed into anti-establishment resistance.
    So, I had a double dose of apathy in my face, as it were. No one seemed to give a damn about 3rd world conditions(my experience for 2 years) and most Americans were numb, just as now, towards another catastrophe beginning to build.
    Looking back, the thing that allowed us to reach a “critical mass” of sorts was that young American men could be drafted into an insane climate of horror. I don’t think we could’ve reached 300,000 protesters in the streets of San Francisco in Apr. 1967 unless many young men felt their very life to be on the line.
    But despite what Hollywood feeds the masses today, up until the official end of the war(1975), I sensed division and that damned Apathy everywhere. And until this day, most Americans don’t give a damn about 3rd World horrors which are now more extreme than ever!
    I mentioned that I slowly came to realize that apathy is part of the human condition and is not monopolized by the US. Apathy is everywhere on the globe! You and your many friends and supporters are like me. We know we have to research, research, and research to get at the heart of the beast–to understand, at least that the thing seems to be way, way beyond our efforts to change. Yet, given the true existential absurdity ala Albert Camus writings, we still take action. ..still search. And, APATHY, notwithstanding, that is who you are and we are a small percentage of the American landscape. I say this believing, of course, that given the total police/fascist state with an illusion of a constitutional democracy, there should be 10 million in the streets on a daily basis–except there ain’t!

  7. Thomas Wonsetler says:

    Sibel, what John said is true, that most people are aware and do care, but most people are not leaders and there need to be leaders and organization ! And it will take much more than just protests to change the world ! There is a profound spiritual (not religious) and political awakening happening on this planet right now as well as health consciousness awakening and other things ! The wave is rising and will continue to ! But we need leaders to organize new ways to live in unity, harmony and health, while going around the establishment as much as we can, and this has to be global, not just local as some people say. If people just try to fight the establishment it will take too long. We have to do it without them more and more

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