Podcast Show #113: The TWA 800 Crash & The ‘Unholy Alliance’ of FBI and Mob

The Boiling Frogs Show Presents Peter Lance

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Peter Lance, an author and former investigative reporter for ABC’s 20/20, joins us to discuss the unholy alliance’ of FBI and mob, and the FBI’s advance warning of a plot to bring down a commercial airliner on American soil just weeks before the 1996 TWA 800 crash. He presents us with the chronology, investigative results and evidence obtained by him, including previously confidential government documents, showing that the FBI knew of Osama bin Laden’s ‘chief bomb maker’s’ plan to bring down a plane in 1996, and that Ramzi Yousef planned to derail his own terror trial with the bombing.

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  1. HAL 9000 says:

    Kristina hung up on Lance? Good for her, that woman knows a tool when she meets one.

    Listened to this in my car and need to listen again when I can give it full attention. But a couple of comments before this thread falls off the front page into the frog graveyard. First, Sibel and Peter please give the proponents of the alternate theory a chance to make their case and/or respond to this and any follow-up podcasts. If you’re going to give this forum to Peter Lance and you are genuinely committed to an honest pursuit of truth, then the other side should be heard. Jack Cashill, Kristina Borjesson, James Sanders, and Robert Thorne are names that come to mind. If you could arrange the first two together that would be well worth the time.

    Interesting contrast between the treatment received by Cashill and Lance for their investigative work. The government pretty much tried to ruin Cashill’s life, while our Columbia University graduate, Peter Lance, lives comfortably on a steady stream of publishing deals from William Morrow – a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. operating out of Rockefeller Center in New York City. Yes, that’s where I usually turn to find out what’s really going on – Rupert Murdoch. Peter Lance is a darling of the mainstream media, which typically is a red flag for Sibel, but she seems to have no reservations in this case.

    Lance is going to rely on FBI crime lab output to argue for his “bomb inside the plane” theory? Well you have to be either uninformed or a tool to accept FBI crime lab work in a case like this as trustworthy. The FBI has a long history of fabricating evidence and conclusions to support a cover story. On a website like BFP, I should not have to go through the examples, but to name just a few, JFK, RFK, Waco, and OK City. Furthermore, a former FBI crime lab director, Fred Whitehurst, exposed the lab fraud, sued the FBI and won, then got a law degree and is now devoting his life to freeing all the people who were imprisoned by the bogus crime lab output. Give me a break, Peter Lance is being paid to reinforce the govt’s cover story (justification) for the “war on terror.” This is the same type of disinformation operation that paid Vincent Bugliosi to deflect the growing body of research indicting the Warren Commission cover up of the JFK assassination.

    In this podcast, Lance reinforces the cover stories for 9/11 and Lockerbie. Despite Lance’s effort to repeat these lies, the evidence is not there to conclude that the alleged plotters for 9/11 or Lockerbie had anything to do with either.

    Need to listen again before I say more, but by that time this thread will be out of sight and out of BFP consciousness.

  2. The ease with which he dismisses the numerous eyewitness reports gives me pause, when what they describe is the object rising from the water or horizon and intercepting the plane…


    What they describe in detail is in no way consistent with Lance’s explanation that they saw the front of the plane briefly rising after the explosion, mistaking that with a missile? I’m sorry but he has as much credibility here as Kalstrom.

    For what it’s worth, I have word (twice removed) from a military source who claims that… get this: Canada did it! They were part of the war games taking place and it happened that it was a Canadian missile that locked onto the plane.

  3. Rose Mary says:

    I listened to interview “Peter Lance on the real 911 Cover Up”. Peter Lance is on the wrong side. He is not the type who fits into “useful idiot”. What he is I have not decided. When he promotes himself as contributing something “new” that is within 10% new = the formula for making a bestseller. The other 90% is mainstream. The term “cover up” I consider “mainstream” – my term is lying.

  4. gogetem says:

    If Lance has his conclusions wrong about Ali Mohamed, then why should I believe him about TWA 800?

  5. I’m gonna have to go with Hal 9000 and the other skeptics here.

  6. Though I appreciate Lance’s work and definitely will not dismiss it, I agree with Hal at this point. In fact, I am trying to reach out to retired General Benton Partin, again, about TWA 800. Ben in his lectures has stated that TWA 800 was shot down by missile using “exploding rod” technology. Let me see what Ben says and I’ll get back to you guys.

    I’m sure this adept forum knows who Ben Partin is. If not, Ben is a retired Air Force general, twenty seven years, who specialized in engineering and explosives. Ben proved there was a massive blast within the OKC Alfred P. Murrah builidng which was supported by the 55 page Eglin AFB study.

  7. Hi Guys,

    I spoke with Ben just a few minutes ago. Keep in mind Ben is up there in years and we have to measure his answers. However, I was able to clarify with Ben about what brought down TWA 800. Ben, without hesitation, said it was a warhead, from a missile, with “exploding rod” technology. I also asked if there would be any nitro-glycerine residue associated with the type of explosive he promulgates (exploding rod technology). He said, no. No, nitro-glycerine. Guys, this is the best I can do at this point.

  8. gogetem says:

    Thanks, pick.

  9. Why can’t I, as a member, reliably download full content in iTunes anymore. It used to work but for much of this year, it is hit or miss whether or not I get a 2 minute, etc., teaser mp3, or the full version. I wouldn’t ask here, but I can’t find where else I can ask about this on this site. Previously, I’ve tried to communicate via email re membership issue and never received a reply. If there’s some way to fix the site so this work, I’d appreciate it. Thank you for your assistance.

  10. HAL 9000 says:


    email me at fivepointsvet@gmail.com and I will give you some help on this

  11. My Hero, Hal 9000, will do. Thank you.

  12. (Coming late to the podcast) Thanks, Hal9000. Having read KristinaB’s wonderful “Into the Buzzsaw” compendium of stomped-on journalists’ first-person stories, I was impressed with her thoroughness, and though I was intrigued with Lance’s alternative explanation, I was quite troubled by his extolling FBI Form 302’s, which he himself defines as massaged for the possibility of seeing the light of day, but which come from, well, the FBI, after all. And the complex Youssev-related web is utterly intriguing, and I’d be totally sold if I hadn’t been initiated into this world by Sibel’s discussions of Gladio-B.

  13. Thomas Wonsetler says:

    Thanks for the intelligent comments on here ! And as always thanks Sibel and Peter ! Great people !

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